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Ryzen 7000 CPUs have a serious problem with their heat spreaders

AMD’s new Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 CPUs look undeniably cool with their spider-leg-like integrated heat spreader (IHS). But, it pains me to say it: In my time with these chips, I’ve developed a real dislike for the design.

The convoluted, atypical shape means that cleaning off all the heat paste when changing CPUs or coolers is almost impossible. But in our testing we’ve found two instances of Ryzen 7000 CPUs actually scratching and damaging the cold plates of our coolers. That’s just not cool.

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Heat paste issues

Heatpaste buildup on a Ryzen 7000 CPU.
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Let’s start with the obvious issue I mentioned up top. The unique design of the Ryzen 7000 IHS absolutely loves grabbing and holding onto old heatpaste.

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It’s shaped this way to provide direct-air access to some of the sensitive components around the CPU, with a thicker IHS in the center to help offset the difference in height between the traditional AMD PGA AM4 socket and the new LGA design of AM5 socket used with Ryzen 7000. This ensures cooler compatibility between generations, a very welcome feature for a generation that already demands a new motherboard and RAM.

But the problem with this shape is that it is very easy to end up with thermal paste getting stuck in the grooves, and their thin shape makes it hard to remove. This doesn’t necessarily matter with most heat pastes, as they’re thermally not electrically, conductive. But if you’re using liquid metal or another conductive thermal interface material, then this could be a real problem.

It’s also not very aesthetically pleasing to have old thermal paste gunking up your chips and, on a small scale, that paste could act like insulation along the side of the CPU, worsening its thermal transfer properties.

We’re not the first ones to encounter the problem of overflowing heat paste getting stuck in between the segments of the IHS. It’s so prevalent and was so obvious early on, that Noctua made the  Noctua NA-TPG1, a thermal paste guard and cleaning set. Maybe we should have bought one of those for our test systems from the get-go.

Stop scratching my cold plates!

Ryzen 7000 CPU compared to scratches on AIO coldplate.
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Perhaps more problematic is the fact that the Ryzen 7000 CPUs have scratched up two different AIO coolers we’ve been using for testing — on two entirely different test rigs, used by two different writers, on two different continents. The physical location of the CPUs and their coolers doesn’t matter, but I want it to be as clear as possible that this isn’t just user error.

Digital Trends reviewer Jacob Roach and I have both had the same issue with repeat Ryzen 7000 testing leading to some quite nasty scratches and uncleanable blemishes on our respective AIO coolers from the polished copper cold plates.

One of these coolers hasn’t been tested with anything but Ryzen 7000, while the other survived multiple generations of CPU testing completely unscathed until the testing of Ryzen 7000 began to wear it down.

That’s the two different AIO coolers in the gallery above with comparable, if slightly different, damage. We haven’t nailed down exactly what the problem is here, but it would seem likely that slightly uneven load across the cold plate from the unique IHS shape is causing indentation around the edges, which over time is leading to damage of the cold plate.

In the case of one of them, uneven mounting pressure seems to have skewed the damage to one side, but there’s still a lot of scratches from only a few days worth of testing.

Who needs an IHS anyway?

During our reviews of the Ryzen 7000 CPUs, we’ve blamed the added thickness of the IHS for the high temperatures of the chips, with most hitting 95 degrees on the core mere seconds after loading them with anything strenuous. Indeed, overclockers around the world have been having amazing success in delidding, or grinding down the IHS to make it thinner, with some reporting temperature drops of as much as 20 degrees.

Curiously, this doesn’t seem to have a huge impact on performance, but it does ward off the problems of heat paste spread and cold plate scratching. It just comes at the expense of potentially destroying your processor during the delidding process, and needing to be extremely careful with how tightly you mount your cooler.

We don’t recommend you try delidding unless you’re particularly confident and can afford to buy a new CPU if you break your existing one during the process, but it remains an option for those concerned about AIO damage.

Watch this space

A hand holding the Ryzen 9 7950X in front of a green light.
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Despite Ryzen 7000 CPUs being available in the wild for a couple of months now, this isn’t an issue I’ve seen repeated elsewhere. I’m glad in some ways that my colleague experienced the same problems, as at least I can rest assured that I’ve not just been handling my new AMD CPUs too vigorously, or simply overtightening the screws.

But two corroborative data points are more of a coincidence than a pattern, so more research into this phenomenon is required if we’re too get to the bottom of the issue. I’d be interested to see whether nickel-plated copper would fare better, with its anticorrosive properties aiding in resisting the damaging effects of the Ryzen 7000 IHS.

Perhaps there’s a mounting process where you can get away with not tightening the screws all the way to reduce that edge pressure from the IHS while still maintaining cooling performance. Perhaps AIOs and coolers with more screws and springs could provide more even mounting pressure too.

If any of you have come across this phenomenon yourself, though, do let us know. We’ve love to know we’re not alone here.

Jon Martindale
Jon Martindale is a freelance evergreen writer and occasional section coordinator, covering how to guides, best-of lists, and…
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